Thursday, October 13, 2011

Door-To-Door Meat Salesmen: Harding Ranch Engaging In Aggressive, High-Pressure Sales Tactics In Anchorage, Alaska

Fortunately, I get pestered only occasionally by outside salespersons in Anchorage. Once in a while, a representative of the Anchorage Daily News comes around to try to sell me a subscription, but it's usually an older teenager entering the work force for the first time, so I don't take much issue with it.

But lately, a local door-to-door meat broker has been spamming people with repeated unsolicited sales calls. Twice during the past week, representatives of Harding Ranch have knocked on my door, offering to sell me meat out of the back of a truck. In both cases, the truck did not appear to be refrigerated. And these buggers are persistent; I generally have to tell them NO two or three times and actually close the door on them before they back down. They are not abusive or discourteous, but they are unusually persistent.

One problem is that I have no incentive to buy meat off the back of a truck. Within 15 minutes driving distance of my home are Target, Carr's, Fred Meyer, and Walmart. I know what I'm getting from them; I cannot be sure what I'm getting from Harding. Furthermore, Harding is better-suited for large families needing to make bulk purchases; within each master case of meat are seven 'sleeve' boxes containing cuts of beef and burger, to include ribeye, sirloin, chuck, cube, and ranch steaks as well as both bulk and pattied ground steak, ribs, and London broil. It would take me forever to work my way through that lot, much of it would become corrupted by freezer burn before I could get to it, and the only type of meat I really like is burgers and ground steak. So their products are mostly useless to me.

According to the Better Business Bureau, Harding Ranch is not officially accredited by the BBB. That by itself is not necessarily a red flag; such businesses often simply choose not to seek BBB accreditation. The BBB does grade them an "A-", and there has only been one complaint recorded against them during the past three years, successfully resolved with BBB assistance. According to their website, Harding Ranch flash-freezes their meat and ships it here from Montana, which is similar to the techniques used by the more famous Omaha Steaks.

So it appears Harding Ranch is a reputable company that simply hasn't kept up with current sales tactics. Most people have become somewhat radicalized against unsolicited sales calls at their homes; Harding Ranch hasn't quite figured out that these tactics will alienate the public and hinder them from growing their business. If Harding Ranch starts repeatedly bugging you in your neighborhood, I suggest you call their office at 646-1925 and explain the problem. Be polite.

The U.S. Department of Agriculture offers a series of tips on how to safely purchase meat from an independent meat broker.

115 comments:

  1. this type of business has been going since the early 80 and is still going strong. lmao

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    1. I would never suggest this business to anyone. they get quality beef to customers for cheap at the expense of employees. they are continually doing interviews because after a day or two they realize whats up. today was my first day and the driver they set me up to work with wasted two hours this morning trying to find money for gas for the delivery truck, before he finally sold something that looked like drugs to a mechanic at a shop and got gas. then as we traveled to the valley to try sell some product, he pulled out a pipe and started to smoke weed. One of the comments this morning before we even left were. the guy that works at the desk came in and a guy asked him what he wanted his reply was acid. The other guy replied i can get it for you. What kind of business is this.

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  2. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life

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    1. i can go with that. i believe n him also but you still go too eat. that's type of business been going on scene an before i was born. i'm in by 40's but always be careful buying anything from anybody that's even the grocery store.

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  3. I got scammed in Anchorage recently by one of those companies. I wasn't interested in the meat, since I get good quality organic meat from the CSA I subscribe to, but the seafood was tempting, so against my better judgement, I went for it. I shortly realized afterwards that I had no idea how many times it had been thawed and refrozen, and that I shouldn't eat it.

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  4. I just had a guy stop by from there too i use a similar company and made the mistake of telling a harding ranch representative that he immediately turned around walk back to his truck and proceeded to bring merchandise to my door swearing that they had a better deal and were much higher quality we eat as close to organic as possible and the salesperson informed me that the beef was organic and all prime grade the guy had no clue what organic is or what prime grade means and then preceded to quote me over a hundred dollars more than what i am currently charged and promptly told me to just write a check so i did some poking around

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  5. Poking cont. RUN AWAY
    Organic NO in fact the nhtc verification ended in 2010 meaning not hormone free

    Usda PRIME grade NO in fact their inspection stamp code is approved but their beef is not graded (but a sticker on their box said prime)!!!

    If its not printed on the product label you can't trust it.
    And as far as a guarantee ask for it in writing I'll stick with my delivery guy

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  6. Current BBB rating is F with 3 complaints (2/3/12).

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  7. I just had them come here for the second time in a week, and told them flat-out no. I live between Wasilla and Big Lake. There is no way I am going to buy meat off of a meat truck. So now they're over in my neighbor's driveway and have entered the house with two boxes of meat there. I just googled them and read the BBB rating of "F." And I'm wondering, are they just driving different trucks around with a different business name on each? There seems to be a lot of them.

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    1. I work for Harding ranch and I love it here I have heard from some of my customers that we do have a guy that says he's with Harding ranch but he's not. Besides the point are meat is great stuff and I'm sorry about your opinions but look us up montanabeef.com

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    2. 6/27/2014 the montanabeef.com website has noted in RED lettering, on hte contact page, that Harding Ranch, Inc in Anchorage is NOT affiliated with them, they DO NOT supply meat to Harding Ranch, Inc!!! :( So, it begs the question, where does Harding Ranch, Inc get it's beef? How can we turst it is 'organic', grass fed, free of homones and food coloring?

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  8. I have bought meat from Harding ranch and it is very good quality. The truck used by my salesperson is a very new refer truck. The meat is in quality vacuum sealed plastic, guaranteed not to freezer burn. If something were bad I'm sure my guy would replace it or issue a refund. LOL, you trust all the hands that touch your meat at a chain more than a specialized business is comical.

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  9. Harding Ranch knocked on my door in Palmer on 2/24 but left after I asked to see his city business license. I verified that the company does not have a city business license, is not collecting sales tax on any sales and is not allowed to solicit door to door in a residential neighborhood.

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  10. The salesman came to our business in Midtown Anchorage. He was polite, but the sale was high pressure. He upped the ante to buy the beef and the pork for a reduced price. We succumbed to his high pressure tactics. After he left I figured out we spent approximately $9/lb even at the discount. We thought that would be ok since it was "high quality, organic, grass fed..." meat. But, cuts were very thin and very tough. Since a couple of the chops and steaks were ok we kept trying the differnt pieces. The pork products were especially disappointing to the point of being inedible. We kept hoping we had done something wrong in the cooking, but no matter how it was cooked, it was tough. The Italian sausage and stuffed pork chops were gross. When they called to see how things were and we told them we were disappointed, they said "Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. We haven't had any other complaints." There was no, "How can we make this better?" attitude at all. I wish we had not kept giving them the benefit of the doubt and just called at the first bad piece! So, if you get this product, and it's not good on the first piece of meat- call and turn it back. It won't get better.

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  11. In short: Good, friendly service.

    A salesman came by yesterday offering a little information about the company and product. I was busy at the time and he was very respectful of my time.

    Today is my buddy's birthday and being a Man's Man, he loves a good steak. I figured I'd look into buying a box from Harding Ranch. I called the office and asked to have the salesman give me a call. Almost as soon as I hung up, the friendly guy from yesterday called back to schedule a meeting. He told me a time he would be at my door and followed through with his word.

    After telling him I am a student looking for a good deal for my friends birthday, he offered his price. Good deal, but I couldn't afford. I calculated a price per pound in my head and named my price. He stuck out his hand and we shook, like American businessmen should do. $8/lb for assorted cuts. I even went through the boxes and chose the best steaks as if I was in a grocery store.

    Harding Ranch in Montana uses two year old beef cows. Flash freezing and tight freezing packaging allows the meat to not crystalize and "burn" in the freezer. BBB rating is B as of current. Although they sell fish and chicken, don't be surprised when the product is bad because they don't specialize in it.

    Don't be upset when people knock on your door. They need a job to pay for the rising cost of living. I'd rather an American citizen sell me American products at my door than deal with Raj in India when I want to learn something about a computer I would like to buy.

    Replying to Anon from Palmer, I'm sure they have a lisence. Site your sources. I bought a a lisence in Anchorage for my "business", myname, Inc. I payed $50 and filled the application out and I am now "in the system". It's a total crock. I don't have a business, I am a 21 year old student. I am just using it to get unlimited usage at GCI. Rat on that.

    Research the facts and educate yourselves. The country could use more people who ask questions.

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  12. These people came to my door and knocked like they were the stinkin police and kept ringing the doorbell. If i dont know you im not gonna answer the door. After about 5 mins of this knocking and ringing they finally left. Very very persistant.

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  13. I live outside Wasilla and seen this Harding Ranch coming and waved him away, he then yelled something at me that I only partially heard but along the lines of "Don't leave your house alone ever again". Watch out for these guys, they might be casing houses to rob or other nefarious acts. I called and left a message on their answering machine. Be vigilant and be armed around these characters.

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  14. I agree with the guy above, very suspicious behavior. They will do a drive by just to see if you are at home. By the way, they have a new name for themselves, Alaska Choice Cuts...we call that a moose! Very same guy that drove the Harding Ranch truck now drives a van that says Alaska Choice Cuts and he was constantly stopping in next door, trying to be way too friendly with the neighbors kids. Nothing against Harding Ranch, just this particular salesman. Who knows what else they're up to. We're out of Wasilla about 12 miles KGB Rd.

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    1. Older guy, a black guy and what looked like a hooker came to my house and i felt like they were casing my place. How many people does it take to sell meat . Also my place is posted . The next time they pull in i will be calling troopers. Dirty looking people.

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  15. They're real greaseball salesmen! Who'd buy meat out of the back of a van from some guy who hasn't taken a bath all week?

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  16. ak choice cuts, teddy tasty meats, greatland and harding ranch are all of different companies, and ofcourse harding ranch has a license. some of those guys are creepy but most are sweet. yes they are all persistant trying to make that bonus... they arent staking out your homes. they are all freezer equipped and ur seafood isnt thawed and refrozen. these really do value there clients and potential. if u dont like a certain cut, indeed call them and they will replace wut u dont like for what u do... they are grass feed cows non hormone treated, the chicken is non hormonal as well; im pretty sure thats why its expensive. i stick to caribou and moose and game birds... not trying to promote the company just stating a few facts i know... ur welcome harding ranch ;)

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  17. We buy our meat from Harding ranch.. The saleman was very nice, polite, and gave us a GREAT deal. People have been selling things door to door for YEARS...
    The meat is all great lean meat, nice cuts, and is NOT freezer burned.
    We WILL continue to buy our meat from them :)

    Just remember ... You don't know who the hell handles your meat at the store and have no clue where it comes from ;)

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    1. lean meat is not prime! what you paid for!

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  18. A guy in a Harding Ranch truck/van just drive up to me while I was waking my dog. He came so close, with the sliding door facing me, that I took the pepper spray out of my pocket and prepared for a possible attack or abduction attempt. I've never seen this truck in our Anchorage neighborhood before. He said they were having some sort of Fathers Day special. I've never heard of them, and was not interested. A few minutes later I noticed that he had circled the block and was down at the other end of the street. He must have seen someone out in their yard because I saw him getting back into his truck. This was definitely not professional salesperson behavior to me. It actually borderlined on stalking. The driver is lucky he wasn't aggressive or he would've gotten pepper sprayed or referred to the police officer who lives a few houses away. Very shady and made me feel unsafe for the first time in my neighborhood. Some people may think that's overreacting, but as a female, I'd rather be safe than sorry - and be on guard for strange vehicles that pull up next to pedestrians.

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  19. Despite signs saying "No Soliciting" and "No Salesmen Allowed" at the front of our driveway, Harding Ranch salesmen have visited us five times in the last five weeks. Every single time, they have been redirected to read the signs. I have had to get more and more direct each time they stop by. It does seem creepy to me, as if they are casing the place. If they keep coming to your property, I suggest you have a camera ready. Take pictures of their van, license plate and employees.

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  20. Harding Ranch is casing houses. They drove through my neighborhood and lightly knocked once at several man doors to people's garages. They didn't wait for anyone to answer just knocked and walked away. I think they were checking to see if the doors were locked.

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  21. I believe the same as above...casing houses. Who else tries the doorknobs on homes when they don't even know who lives there. After I opened the door to see who it was, I took a look just to satisfy my curiousity. Inside the van was another dude talking on a cell phone apparently with no customer concern... the first guy opened the van door and had to push aside all the cardboard boxes to get to a chest freezer with a broken lid (maybe so it could actually open in a van??). The steaks didn't look that fresh to me. He must have thought if he talks real fast and says a lot of words that'll make people trust them. Buyer beware!

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    1. I was approached at a gas station by a Harding Ranch van. There was two guys and a girl. The guy who jumped out at me looked like he was on drugs.

      Very disturbing!!!!

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    2. Has anyone had any good experiences regarding Harding Ranch and their employees, products or services?

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    3. yes i love the meat package.... the new yorks are yummy jucicy.... the t bone is to big for me and so is the rib eye.. besides teh new york is a leaner cut.. but they seem to go first.. then rib eye then tbone. the price is right i priced it at the store and now a days at the cost of the meat in at carrs or freddy it is alot less. 3 ribye thin cut yesterday at carr was 17.98 on sale... the thicker cut was more.. so if you haven't tried it ..try it.. saves you money.. but one thing is the salesman differ so if you got the package i got at 591 for case beef / chicken / pork... the price is right. and keep his number. !!!

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    4. Better do the math. With what you are paying for the beef they could throw in 2 cases of pork and chicken. 25 #s of beef for $591. thats 23.64 a pound pork and chicken is 2 to 3 bucks a pound.

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    5. All of these people complaining about the salesmen/women need to get over it. Every personality is different. My salesman was very polite and even stood back from my door to give me space until I mentioned my interest in grass fed meats, when he stepped forward to shake my hand and introduce himself. He then stepped back again to explain himself and the product they were offering, again providing that space so I didn't feel uncomfortable. Different personalities dictate your experience, you shouldn't blame the company as a whole just because the person/people that came to your door were pushy and idiots. The company doesn't control how the person acts and almost certainly wouldn't approve of it if you called them to complain.

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  22. They were snooping around my home (not knocking or ringing doorbell) my dog alerted me, when I confronted them on the side of my detached garage armed while carrying my AR15 they; needless to say they got in their van and sped off. 2 real grease ball types. I filed a report with the AST. No trespassing signs mean nothing to these scumbags. If you see them in your neighborhood, beware.

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    1. Your a douchebag. Almost makes me wish I worked there just to confront you and beat your ass with you own weapon. Every business had their downfall employees that end up jobless.

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  23. I just had one of these vans pull into my driveway & had my dogs barked I would not have even known they were out there. No one knocked or range a door bell. I went to the door to see what he needed. The whole thing was pretty shady and I'm glad my dog's barking gave me a quick excuse to get rid of him. No thanks I dont want to buy meat out of the back of a van.

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  24. I was dupped into buying a case of steaks and a case of chicken the other day. I knew this was not the smartest thing I've ever done, but an easy sale on a freezer full of meat sounded good at the moment. The very next day I watched these 2 guys buy prime rib steaks and boneless skinless chicken breasts from our local grocery store. Anyone else find that a little weird?? Why buy meat at our local store when you have a freezer full it...hhhmmmmmm!! Haven't tried the meat yet and I sure hope I don't have an even worse taste in my mouth than I do right now.

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    1. Ever thought that maybe they were buying for themselves and their families because they can't afford the steaks they sell for themselves? Hmmmmmmmmm!!!!

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  25. Ester and Bill Treadstone9/10/2012 10:38 PM

    i had recently bought from Harding ranch i have to say they have the best tasting beef in Alaska ten times better than carrs and fred meyer. its higher quality (prime) and it comes to my door. all i need is to pick up some vegetables and dinners complete. the salesman that knocked on my door and presented the meat was very polite and was not those pushy type of sales people like in the mall who want you to test there products. i don't not believe the people above who say that they are casing houses because if that's the case they wouldn't be in business. i appreciate Harding ranch because they are a big help to me and my family and such a good company.

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    1. HARDING RANCH HAS DONE ALOT FOR THE COMMUNITY . THEY HAVE FED 48,000 ALASKA CHILDREN THROUGH THE CHILDREN'S LUNCH BOX PROGRAM , I THINK, BEFORE WE ARE TO JUDGE, WE SHOULD CHECK THE FACTS. HAS ANYONE ELSE FED 48,000 HUNGRY KIDS WOW AMAZING , WAY TO GO HARDING RANCH INC , LEARN MORE AT CHILDREN'S LUNCH BOX .COM ALASKA .... BILL AND SUSAN ..THANKS AGAIN ITS AMAZING WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE CHILDREN ....

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  26. Steven Baxter9/11/2012 10:25 PM

    A week ago Saturday a young man came to my door asking if I wanted a good deal on steak and chicken he was a representative of Harding ranch. I hadn't heard of the company but I decided to take a look at his products anyway. I knew that the price that he was quoting me was a good deal I just wasn't sure what I was getting as far as quality. I decided to try a small amount so I could see what I was getting. I have to say I am glad I gave the young man a chance. he was polite, the steaks were very high quality and the packaging was solid. I am very glad that I tried the product and it is my intention to be ordering a large quantity in the very near future. Thank you Harding ranch. The most important thing to me is goof food for my family.

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  27. Maria Nelson9/12/2012 5:52 PM

    That Harding Ranch is great I bought a quite a bit and I got a 100 gift certificate and I am always pleased with the beef and there people. I went on there web site and they have the own 60,000 acre ranch and the beef is always fresh unlike these grocery store that thaw refreeze, thaw refreeze. I am so glad they are here in Alaska. I will always be a frequent customer with them and I spread the good news to all my friends and you should too.

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  28. jim harrison9/13/2012 3:34 PM

    Hi i wanted to write to whoever writes this post wow have you no education if you did you would see what this company has done for the children in alaska in the above post its true the harding ranch did donate and feed 48,000 alaska kids now from a outside view how can we say anything bad about these people thats just wrong i think we should ask the person who wrote this article to match the donation that was made to the alaska children , your welcome harding ranch ...

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  29. Wow oh my gosh Harding ranch has fed 48,000 kids that's fantastic.

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  30. Janice and Brett Loftheart9/13/2012 5:58 PM

    I THINK THAT HARDING RANCH IS A GREAT COMPANY. THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN GOOD TO MY FAMILY, SAVING ME TIME AND MONEY NOT HAVING TO GO TO THE GROCERY STORE TO BUY 1STEAK FOR LIKE 30.00 FOR A DECENT SIZE ONE. THEY ARE PORTION CONTROLLED AND IF I FEEL LIKE HAVING A CHICKEN BREAST AND MY HUSBAND FEELS LIKE A STEAK I CAN JUST PULL 1 OUT. TAHNK YOU HARDING RANCH FOR COMING TO MY DOOR AND SELLING ME MEAT. I WILL BE CALLING SOON TO RE-ORDER.

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  31. Why are people hagging on door to door salesman thats there job just like the Kirby people knocking on door trying to sell you a vacuum, there just trying to sell you food that's actually better then the grocery store.

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  32. Harding ranchs beef is all great cuts like tenderloins and t-bones and ribeyes and man o man there beef is good!!!

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  33. Bill and jenny , and kids9/14/2012 10:03 PM

    Harding ranch stoped by our house tonight they showed us some product and we liked what we saw our sales person was polite and explained the product to us , we just moved here from california and it felt nice to have a company who offers real ranch beef direct to the consumer , my wife and i are still learning the area and people here my husband transfered here with the military , we also loved the fact the harding ranch fed all the hungry kids here , also we have found out they have sponsered the local navy base with a large donation for our troops , i think we should all think before we say bad things about a great company , thanks harding ranch ...

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  34. KELLY AND MATT9/17/2012 6:02 PM

    I bought some steaks and chicken from these people and is was great the taste was wonderful and i will reorder again , thanks also for what you have done in the state of alaska for our hungry children and our troops , kelly and matt eagle river alaska .

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  35. Jackie Smith9/19/2012 10:31 PM

    I had a sprinter van pull up in my driveway today and It had the company name on it Harding ranch. The man in the vehicle got out and knocked my door and told me his pitch about how he was selling meat. I told him to hang on a bit so I could find out some information on the Internet about the company. So I found out the harding ranch had their own ranch in terry Montana and it was 60,000 acres big and how the feed 48,000 Alaskan children buy donating tons of meat literally tons. I called my girlfriend who lives in montana and she said its the best beef. I took a look at the mans product and fell in love with the cuts. Filet mignon, thick ribeyes and great looking burgers. I got an unbelievable deal! I pulled out some ribeyes for me and my husband for dinner and he asked me where I had gotten the beef, I told him it wasn't from the grocery store and he was in shock. Harding ranch has wonderfull beef and I will buy all the time because it makes me and my husband happy. For all you housewives a way to a mans heart is through his belly!! Feed him a Harding ranch steak and he will love you forever!

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  36. The beef is amazing and i will order again it taste a lot better than the store we also got some chicken and pork as well it all taste great , i think the people writing all the bad on here must of got meat from another company I'm sure there is a lot of trucks with freezers on the back saying they are the harding ranch the diffrence is they don't have a real 60,000 acre ranch , and I'm sure they have not fed 48,000 hungry alaska children , bill and susan , formaly from montana .....

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  37. I had bought this last weekend and BBQed today and there beef is 10 times better than the store juicy, tender and amazing. My guest were pleased and they will buy and I'm going to buy all my beef from Harding ranch defiantly not the store ever again as long there in buisness. Thanks!!!

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  38. These people just came to my door for the 3rd time in 2 weeks. First time my husband told them no and not to bother us again. Last two times I have been home alone and didn't answer but my dogs alerted me they were approaching..otherwise I wouldn't have heard the "knock". I watched them go from house to house knocking on garage doors not front doors and not waiting for an answer which made me nervous. I'm 8 months pregnant and won't answer the door for anyone while home alone, especially these shady looking characters. I don't care how many kids they feed or how good their meat may taste - that's not the kind of behavior that any salesperson should demonstrate.

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  39. it responce to the obove post , i think you should be happy there is a company that brought real ranch beef to alaska , you seem marioned these folks are fine they are just working and trying to sell great product , be happy someone cared to come buy and offer you some great beef , your welcome harding ranch ....

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  40. I AGREE PEOPLE IN ALASKA SHOULD BE HAPPY,,,UNLIKE MR PRIME BEEF TEDDYS AND CARRS FRED MYER , ALL THAT BEEF COMES FROM A UNKNOWN SOURCE THIS IS WHY JUST THIS WEEK FRED MYER RECALLED THERE BEEF BECAUSE THEY AND YOU BUYING IT HAVE NO IDEA WHERE IT COMES FROM AT LEAST HARDING RANCH BEEF COMES FROM THE SAME SOURCE EVERY YEAR , YES I HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE GUYS SELLING THEY ARE FINE THEY WORK YEAR AROUND WHEN ITS 30 BELOW TO SERVE US UNGRATEFUL ALASKANS , ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT PERSON SELLING IS SOMEONES CHILD AND WE AS PEOPLE AND PARENTS DESERVE TO TREAT ALL PEOPLE WITH RESPECT ..... WAY TO GO HARDING RANCH ......I LOVE IT DIRECT TO THE CONSUMER .....

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    1. I bet you do!! but many don't like it that direct

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  41. A HAPPY HARDING RANCH COSTUMER :)10/06/2012 4:49 PM

    for the posting for the 8 month pregnant lady. your about to be a mother and you dont care how much children they feed that is so heartless. God for bid if anything ever happen to you and you could not feed you child and the childrens lunchbox fed your kid from the donations from the companies aaround trying to help the community such as harding ranch. i hope that when you become a mother that you have a more loving attitude and more care for other people around you. for the guys that you call shady characters are people too and those people are somebodies children your talking about. MAY GOD BLESS YOU. AND GOD BLESS YOU HARDING RANCH FOR MAKING THAT LARGE DONATION TO HELP THE HUNGRY CHILDREN IN ALASKA.

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    1. The meat has a shelf life so giving away meat products that would not otherwise retain its quality to an organization that can feed people is nothing new many food handling merchants do this and keep track of the donation to get a tax credit for it. The new mom is clearly being proactive in her self preservation for self and unborn, besides I don't see any of Anchorages/Matsu or valley children emaciated. The salesman are pushy and don't understand the phrase "No thank you I'm not interested right now" They came to my back porch and peaked through the window. I called them and told the owner "that's a good way to get shot"!.

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    2. All of these people complaining about the salesmen/women need to get over it. Every personality is different. My salesman was very polite and even stood back from my door to give me space until I mentioned my interest in grass fed meats, when he stepped forward to shake my hand and introduce himself. He then stepped back again to explain himself and the product they were offering, again providing that space so I didn't feel uncomfortable. Different personalities dictate your experience, you shouldn't blame the company as a whole just because the person that came to your door was pushy and an idiot.

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  42. kelly & fred10/16/2012 3:22 PM

    Hi i want to right to all the people who talk bad about a good company , i bought some steaks from these guys a month ago everything tasted great I'm glad they come to my home and deliver it this works out well for my family we will continue to order the good montana beef we all should be happy these people care enough to come to our homes and sell us a great product ......

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  43. I agree the meat is real good all you paronoed Alaskans complaining about people stopping by are just up to no good be happy you ungrateful people that there a company that works all year to deliver you some great steak .

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  44. I live in dutch harbor and i got some of this beef taste great and i will reorder again ..

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  45. I also bought some of this steak it was really good no problems at all. real nice sales guy plus they deliver all year around i think people should order all the time great steak .

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  46. Hi im a Alaskan who has lived here my whole life after reading this all i have to comment , in the above artical the person writing this post indicates that he was aprouched by a person selling meat out of the back of a truck i have bought meat at the office of harding ranch and they do not have trucks with freezers in the back , futher more as i read all these post i see there is a company calling themselfes alaska choice cuts they have stopped at my house with a freezer in the back of there truck saying they were harding ranch when i told them i was going to call there office to verify the drove off . i find it interesting that the person who wrote this post being a concered Alaskan should of done his homework to see who the person was saying they were harding ranch . the meat my family got was great real steak from montana ...

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    1. *article NOT artical
      *approached NOT aprouched
      *Harding Ranch is a "name" CAPITALIZE it
      *Furthermore is "one word" NOT two
      *themselves NOT themselfes
      *their truck NOT there truck (it belongs to them it's "theirs")
      *their office NOT there office (again...belongs to them = it's theirs)
      *should have NOT should of
      Seriously, were you educated at the public schools?? Or what ?

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    2. Sorry, not everybody is as smart or as educated as you. Were you home schooled?

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  47. It's all about Character..10/21/2012 12:58 AM

    First I have to say that I personally have had Harding Ranch Inc.'s products and I have liked it, sometimes better than the grocery store sometimes not.
    Not enough to need to or want to pay the prices they charge mainly because of the information I was led to believe and the research I found....
    ...Although the representative told me things like there's a 60,000 acre ranch, the beef was Prime beef and it was grass-fed hormone and steroid free beef and chicken;
    I did some research on their website @ http://montanabeef.com/ and found nothing on it or on labels that said the beef they sold me was Organic, Hormone and steroid free, or U.S.D.A Prime graded.
    I found no information about the chicken or pork but I did notice on the boxes they don't say organic or hormone free. The boxes also label a different supplier than one from Montana which leads me to believe it's not from their ranch.

    In regards to each one of you commenting in defense of those comments about Harding Ranch (whether you're an employee, friend/family member of one of their employees or a satisfied customer)
    I hope you really hear this:

    People posting comments about Harding Ranch on this site are not just overly sensitive or paranoid.

    You see Harding Ranch hires salespeople that are representing their company by going in to our neighborhoods door to door and they aren't doing the best job of leaving a good impression;.......

    It's not just about how good or not the food Harding Ranch sells, or whether it comes from The State of Montana or Heaven, or how much the company has donated to anybody....
    It's about CHARACTER..
    and what the people behind the doors these Character's knock on are saying is they are pretty sketched out by some of these "characters" (as one person above put it)..and the character's that Harding Ranch Inc. is allowing to work for them is creating a buzz of discomfort through the community by the actions they are doing.

    I wonder if the ownership and the salesmen will actually listen to these people and change their tactics and character's or if they'll just keep allowing it?
    Either way they deserve the responses and reactions they get!

    If you have any questions about their beef, research their website @ http://montanabeef.com/.


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    1. I contacted the Montana ranch and asked them about it directly. The Harding Ranch trucks selling meat in Alaska ARE NOT affiliated, in any way, with Harding Ranch in Montana. The Alaska company DOES NOT get its meat from the ranch in Montana. The Montana ranch stated that they've asked the Alaska company to stop using their name, to no avail. Not sure if legal action was ever taken, but people should know who they are and are not dealing with.

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    2. Very good post sir. I have sold meat from a truck for over 23 years and I have seen these "meat companies" come and go, and they all seem to be filled with these "characters" and their slash and burn sales tactics. I even employed "contractors" (i.e. characters) for a time for my company, but I soon decided that the public was much much better served by me doing the job myself.

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  48. Fake positive reviews10/21/2012 4:05 PM

    Ok, Harding Ranch, you can stop posting all the fake positive reviews. It's obvious that you have one or two guys getting on every couple days and posting a review posing as happy customers. You make the same grammatical errors, say the same things, and post fake names when almost everyone else posts anonymously. No one is buying it. All your doing is making your company seem even more sketchy. Your guys DO look sketchy, and while it was great that you made a donation to help feed Alaskan children, one good deed does not erase months and months of other behavior from your employees. I'm a mother with small children, and I honestly did not want to open the door for the man who looked like a homeless lumberjack. Be honest about your product and what your selling, and hire professional men and women who treat the community with respect and most of your complaints will end. I have bought meat before and I like the convenience, but I don't like feeling scared and intimidated.

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    1. The Blue van showed last week end, I happened to be doing yard work, the guy gets out and starts talking about log cutting, he was poorly dressed and had dirty hands so I assumed he was a neighbor just wanting to give advice or help but no it turns into, "we have a great deal on steaks"! and blah blah blah. I politely listened and stated " I have no freezer at the moment. An additional heavier set man gets out and exclaims "we have a great deal on freezers right now"! I told him I'm not buying today. What a joke.

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    2. Took a while for someone to see this. All the positive comments are the same...did I tell you how Harding ranch feeds 48000 Alaskan kids? BS! I'm sick of these characters bothering us. It's Alaska, we have fish and moose meat. Get lost and stop scaring my wife. Send shady looking guys to knock on doors in the middle of the day, who are you going to find home? They're lucky they haven't been shot by a scare housewife.

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  49. who gives a shit if the meat is good .

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  50. dirty looking guy came to my door. told him I bought that crap years ago and hated it. you can buy fresh meat for less money. The meat is dog food.

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  51. I am a chef in Anchorage and these clowns keep harrasing me and my family about buying their product out of the back of a van. Huge NO THANK YOU!!! They are creepy, arrogant, and will not take 'No' for an answer. If that doesn't send up a red flag when purchasing, then you are basically an idiot. When purchasing from a known food source - i.e., Carrs, Feddys, Costco, Teddys, etc., you are assured the product has been handled well and you are receiving exactly what you are paying for. The above comments singing this group praises sounds a bit suspicious - like employees or management plugging their product.

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  52. If they come by my house again, they are going to meet my friend Ruger. They keep coming back despite being told "no" and "take me off your list".

    I caught them casing the mandoor to my garage that my kids had left open.

    Incredibly scuzzy looking dude. If you see ANY of these trucks around, strike up a conversation and get pictures of the "salesmen".

    By some magic they have a business license from the state for "Harding Ranch, Inc." but their corporate registration was never completed. They are in fact, a nonexistent company in the state of Alaska. Yet the state issues a non-existent company a business license... I plan to call the attorney general's office.

    I called their office and asked why they stopped at my house, and my house only (the open mandoor of course!). The guy who answered had to "bring up his big screen" but put me on speaker phone. He pretended to be concerned.

    We've had multiple break-ins in our somewhat upscale neighborhood. And I'll just say - the neighborhood isn't too happy about it.

    Who does door to door sales in the middle of a weekday in a residential neighborhood?

    Thieves. That's who.

    Sincerely,

    The lady wearing the "Welcome to the Gun Show" Snoopy t-shirt.

    P.S. I bet it isn't even beef. It's probably horsemeat.

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    1. yeah and your eating cat..... or dog. you need to get a man.... your parionod

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  53. Ok you sound a little weird It sounds to me like a great story i have bought some steaks and they were real good ofcourse i was not paranoid when some one stops buy i guess its because i don't have anything to hide.

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  54. Ok People, these guys are legit. The meat is awesome. I bought a box of steaks last night and cooked a couple of them today and they were awesome.

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  55. My buddy bought some, invited us over to dinner and it was the toughest steak we've ever come accross. Ended up ordering pizza. Stay away from this crap, and stick with legit retailers.

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  56. These are some of the sleaziest looking people I have ever seen. Who in there right mind would buy food from them. They stop by my house at least once a week and the answer is always the same. This is harassment, plain and simple. They need to be shut done. GO AWAY

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  57. Its is obviouse that someone does not like the harding ranch it appears to be the same person talking ugly about harding ranch i bought some steaks and they are real good sounds to me like a crock . probably a competeter .

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  58. They are high pressure salespersons. I was let to believe that they were from the local Sitkinak ranch, nope. And I would never pay $10 per pound + per lb of meat. We are barely making our rent. But my husband sure did. Every bite of that over priced meat is going to taste like guilt. They basically pushed open the door and were going to walk right into my house. My husband is too nice to say no. Not a good match for a highly persuasive and pushy rude people like this. I'm so mad!!!!! And it's packaged so that it looks like way more than it is. WE CAN"T AFFORD TO EAT LIKE THIS!!!

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  59. I live in Eagle River AK and was approached by these salesman. Definitely glad my dogs were both going to crazy to figure out what he wanted. He looked a little creepy and I wouldn't have purchased meat from him anyway.

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  60. I use to work for that company and I spent 10 hours trying to sell meat door to door. At first I was suspicious why the guy I worked with freaked out because the pharmacy wasn't open. Now I know why. These guys I were working for were doing drugs while driving and speeding everywhere. I had to sit in a lawn chair in the back of the van with no seat belt. It was my first and last day of working. Do not spend your money on these people. At the end of the day I didn't even get paid. It is EXTREMELY upsetting.

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  61. Even though it says no soliciting on the door, the worker I worked for still made me go to the door. The ones who stay in the van are the ones who are taking advantage of these guys trying to sell the meat. So if you can be nice to the guy who's at your door, say what you need too, but by all means go ahead and be crappy to the ones hiding in the vehicle taking advantage of these clueless people trying

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  62. harding ranch they are fine , sounds to me the people are really just not sales people find another job , stop talking shit about everyone move on cowboy up just because it wasn't for you doesn't mean its ok to talk crap go pound sand !!!!!!!

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  63. i enjoy the meat especially the new yorks.. they are big and juciy ... the price is rite. im a single lady and i box a box of the beef price was rite campared to the carrs/freddys . a thin ribye today was 17.45 for 3 thin sliced ... harding ranch's ribeyes are thick... and cost less come to about 3.99 lb to 4.99 the the thick slice as for the new york comes to about 3.99 compared to on sale 6.99 at the store.. so its cost effective for me evan as a single person.

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  64. It all tastes like shit. The boss is a fat black piece of shit that met his girlfriend when she was 16 the owner has like 5 different names. The meat is definitely not prime. The tbones look like plastic. And these guys ride around in filthy trucks drinking and snortn pills. They hire anybody who can knock on a door. Even if they stink and smell like shit. And the people writing good reviews are fake

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  65. In responce to the above post I am not a friend or employe just a Alaskan who keeps up on all things i have ate the harding ranch beef and it taste fine , if the above person posting would do his reasearch he could go to the state of alaska web site and see that the harding ranch inc is a incorporation with three officers , anyone who would attack a person for race and personal things shows that they are more than likly a competetor or upset employe or other ,

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  66. So your saying if I get a job at the ranch I can drink beer during work? Oh he'll yeah, when can I start!!! This sounds awesome!! Chicken fried steak

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  67. i just had to get on here. i was a previous employee i worked at harding ranch for 2 years. i am a young man and was very happy that a company was giving me a chance at entering the work force. working for harding ranch taught me alot.to always have a positive attitude no matter what and i learned how to be a better person. yea i got into some trouble as a kid and working for harding ranch changed my life. i wasnt out in the streets running a muck and getting into trouble.these people that say we were riding around in trucks casing houses is ridicilous yea we would drive by houses to seeif anybody was home so you could eliminate the empty houses so you wouldnt waste your time. over the whole 2 years i never or ever seen anybody take anything from anybodys house. even these houses that would have there garages open and expensive power tools and hunting rifles and nobody would answer. thats character is doing good things even when nobody else sees them. all these peple that say we were bad people is false even after people would come out yelln and screaming and trying to fight us we would walk away i always said god bless you hope you have a better day even tho im 6foot and 220 thats good character. aswas the guys i worked with yea we had some bad applesbut doesnt every company? some of you work with perverts and you would never even know because u only see one side of them. were good people that may not have a better situation to be in at the moment we have bills just like the rest of you. yea we may have done some aggressive sales tactics but you have to understand we are selling food door to door. and as far as the steaks yea when i first started we had some low quality cuts that were a little tough. but but now they have all these great cuts of steak that have way more flavor then fredmeyer steaks or three bears. and the guys i worked with were good guys yea some of us may have been rude a couple times but try working for harding ranch and see how many people try and fight u and call you all these bad names. were good guys we have familys too we go to church too and live positive lifes. yea we may not have been from hillside maken 6 figures you shallow people shouldnt be so quick to judge a persons character based on there looks i mean you never know somebosy u wereso quick to judge might be the person that helps you in a time of need then your gonna feel like a jack ass. and no we didnt drive around drunk and snort pills i mean if we did there wouldnt be any harding ranch and alota people would have duis. how would we function where our job was driving? and the people thay say quick grab your guns is it really that serious? your willing t take a persons life for knocking on your door trying to sell u steak? whatdoes that show you about your character? so whos worse they guy thats an aggressive salemen?or the guy that doesnt care about human life and is willing to shoot a man just trying to make a buck? and the manager was a good man just a church guy from out of state trying to make a good living. jeez are you people really that angry in life to sit here on this website and say so many bad things like grab our guns or i had my ar15 and thisand that? wrote by chris

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    1. Yes we are because of people like you. If you pitch something to sell and they reply with no thank you then walk away. But no!!! you keep it up and that's when friendly sales turns to harassment and stalking. good luck if you come to my door and I am respectful of you them we both have a nice day otherwise after I say "no thank you" and you keep being persistent and rude then you get to meet my S&W Governor. Have a nice day

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  68. I find it sad that so many people here in Alaska are freaked out, paranoid, and scared of some guys selling meat out of a truck. In North Pole I had a very clean cut well dressed man knock on my door and he was very polite and the van was the newest on the market and said Harding Ranch on the side.I did not buy any meat but after reading all the negatives I think next time I will. I support people working and hope others will too. Also if you have bad experiences with Harding Ranch or any company I hope you would have the integrity to call the company and give them a chance to make improvements not just post negative comments online. To The Point, I politely requested changing tables be installed in Fairbanks DMV, a couple weeks later it was done. One persons polite suggestions can make the world a better place.

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    1. We are not having the same delightful experience as you so please give the rest of us a break by allowing us to post our experience. If your so satisfied with them buy the meat, eat the meat but please again, let the others have a voice and don't try to interject or say Alaskans are freaked out, we are stand your ground folks when we say no thank you that's that. The company employees are pushy and rude, I can only speak for myself but I'm not impressed with the sales tactics. After two encounters with the meat salesman I will definitely not buy from them because I'm so freaked out and paranoid. My contributing polite suggestion is, don't try to sell me meat out of a van.

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  69. Unfortunately, those creeps are back in our neighborhood in south Anchorage.

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  70. Here's a video account of my own run in with door to door meat sellers in my "No Soliciting" apartment complex. Warning: There is some really graphic language! http://youtu.be/x5hPk40Chd8

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  71. Nice video from lakeland florida we live in alaska ass hole , come up here face a winter its truly amazing how people from 3000 miles away have something to say , wow spend more time thinking about the aligaters in your back yard .....

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  72. The van just left. Very pushy. Had to be told twice to go away. Bought a case of this crap last year. Never again. The spiel is USDA PRIME... BS. The meat is USDA APPROVED. It is not even graded. The steaks are small and of lousy quality. Price per pound WAY over much better meat at Carrs/Fred Meyer. Harding Ranch rated D- for too many complaints and poor response. Don't even answer the door unless you just want aggrivation.

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  73. Today my doorbell rang I answered it was a Harding ranch salesman. He was very polite so I let him give his sales pitch. I was very interested in the steak package. Once he told me the price of 569.00 I told him that's gonna happen not even close he then offered a 10 pound box of king crab not a bad deal but still more money than I was willing to part with. I then counter offered him with 260.00 for the steaks only. Now we are talking I just hope the meat is as tasty as they claim. After I try some I will post my results.

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  74. So what was your conclusion on the steaks you got?

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  75. They are trying to sell meat products, just tell them your trying to eat more healthy by cutting out meats from your diet. If they are still persistent take a pic of them and the van call the cops or check with BBB and see what you can do, these people to me don't resonate a quality product or customer care. I mean really a buck is a buck but no thank you is no thank you, " now get the F@%K off my porch"!!

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  76. I think the video from Walt Cannoy says it all

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  77. I haven't tried the beef but the van and their approach is definitely creepy. It makes me want a security system.

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  78. great steaks good local guys working would you rather have some towel head at your door who cares be happy for people trying to make a buck .

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  79. I bought one of their boxes on 4/1/13, and it was the toughest meat I have ever eaten! I tried marinating it, meat tenderizer, anything I could think of to make the meat better. The crab legs were freezer burnt, and I had to throw them away. I told this to the salesman, as well as calling the customer service number to no avail. Normally, we cannot afford to buy meat that is so expensive, but we had just gotten our tax return and decided to try it. Never again will I go through them for meat!

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  80. I bought there Steaks for years and they are great on the grill, oven and the frying pan. They are super tender and juicy. I'm not a professional chef but I can cook for all y'all who have tender problems and if your steak is dry then maybe you should learn how to cook. Thanks Harding ranch for stoping by my house and selling me steaks!

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  81. I have bought their meat a couple of times and not had any trouble. I live in Kenai and have not experienced any unreasonably creepy or pushy salesman, although I think anyone who knocks on my door to sell meat probably has a little of those qualities regardless. But I did go for it on the "organic" selling point. While I don't know about the legitimicy of these claims, the meat was always pretty tasty and it's sealed well so it's never freezer burnt. I have had their beef, pork and chicken. I would buy again if I could get a good deal on their beef, since that's what we use the most. The meat was definitely frozen so their truck would have to have a freezer in it despite what other people are claiming. If someone was claiming to be from Harding Ranch and was not selling frozen meat I would be worried of a scam.

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  82. I did buy a box of the crab legs. I was so embarassed when I served some to dinner guests. It was either over-cooked at the processor (very doubtful) or it had been frozen, thawed and frozen again. The meat is shriveled and dry. I even tried a leg without cooking it to make sure I hadn't over cooked it in the first place (although I have never done that in over 30 years) It was just nasty with yellow joint meat. I can't say anything about the beef as I have not bought that from them. As for the crab legs at $28 or so per pound, it's a total rip-off. I have contacted the company through their web site and told them to take me out of their system. If they come back for anything other than a full refund, the sales person will be verbally abused with no mercy.

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  83. West Anchorage resident here, near Hillcrest & Forest Park Drive. Harding Ranch salesmen have been at my door twice in recent months, and numerous times the past year. (They are assertive and persistent but usually polite.)
    CAUTION: This weekend a Harding Ranch salesman rang my doorbell. It took me a minute to get to the door. Just as I got there, the SALESMAN TURNED, RATTLED, & TESTED MY DOORKNOB! Fortunately, it was LOCKED. This is ALARMING to me! (I observed him through a window as we spoke through a closed door, and as he subsequently left when I said "NO".) This event has been reported and I urge my neighbors to be on ALERT!

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  84. These pushy Harding Ranch sales people are scary! They ignore "no trespassing" and "no soliciting" signs and go door to door, snooping around homes, in Anchorage! Thank You to Walt Cannoy for posting (above) this warning and video link:
    "Here's a video account of my own run in with door to door meat sellers in my "No Soliciting" apartment complex. Warning: There is some really graphic language! " http://youtu.be/x5hPk40Chd8

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  85. I have read these comments and some of are just nuts! "Casing the neighborhood/houses, drugs, trying door knobs, etc." Every business has their "shady" employees. Especially in sales. Anyone remember the life ins.or Kirby guys?
    They are NOT "casing" ....they check out houses to get a feel so they don't have to hit every door on a street.
    If a company is legit, as this one is, and many are....it takes a phone call to straighten out an issue or complaint.
    Can they be pushy? Absolutly! Welcome to cold sales. How many of us have dealt with pushy sales in stores?? Exactly.
    My daughter has been in this type of sales for7+ yrs and for a few as an Independent. She just moved to Anchorage and currently works for this company and is trying to further her education. She has always refused to work for the shady, conman businesses. So if you see a pretty blond with this company...she's not going to steal from you, she's just making a living for now. And tell her I love her!!

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    1. Are you crazy? Don't try to sell me FOOD out of the back of a dirty truck and send some guy who looks like a homeless bum to my door. Nuts? What time of the day are you home alone so I can come drive slowly around your neighborhood, knock and then test your door knob a few times? Feel safe now? If your daughter works for them she needs to quit. It is a dead end business model. "Can they be pushy?" Are you kidding. If I were to catch your daughter/son/bum trying to intimidate my wife while I'm gone, bad things are going to happen. It is called trespassing and harassment. Don't get "pushy" on my property or you're going to be bear food. If I want to buy clean food, I'll do it on my terms, not some greasy bum driving a dirty truck around my neighborhood in the middle of the day.

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  86. you should all be going to new sagaya for your meat anyway

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  87. Do not be fooled into thinking the meat you're getting from the Harding Ranch trucks comes from a reputable place. I was told by one of the pushy salesmen who came to my door that this was award winning, top quality beef from the Harding Ranch in Montana. I couldn't believe a high end company would sell their product out of the back of a dirty truck with scary looking sales people. I contacted the Montana ranch and asked them about it directly, so here's the scoop. The Harding Ranch trucks selling meat in Alaska ARE NOT affiliated, in any way, with Harding Ranch in Montana. The Alaska company DOES NOT get its meat from the ranch in Montana. The Montana ranch stated that they've asked the Alaska company to stop using their name, to no avail. Not sure if legal action was ever taken, but people should know who they are and are not dealing with.

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  88. I just want to register this - The Harding Ranch guys came by, I told one of them my freezer was full in an outbuilding, and the other one entered my home without permission. It's a scam, and if someone ever breaks and enters in the future, they'll be the first suspects.

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